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James Thompson's avatar

Thanks for this. I am told she was being asked about the figures for her particular school, not in general. In the light of the general issue this is not important, but it explains why she gave the answer she did, because she very probably knows what her girls said to her about their choices.

On the broader front, I too don't want to encourage "girls to do X" or "boys to do y". Students should balance their interests against what society needs. Perhaps we need only a few physicists (and only the outstanding ones) but have a more pressing need for biologists, medics, nurses.

However, if everyone were taught the basics of thermodynamics, a lot of silliness could be avoided.

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Noah Carl's avatar

Thanks for the comment, James. Regarding the possibility that she "knows what her girls said to her about their choices", she wrote the following in her Telegraph article: "One possible reason, I said, could be that they would rather avoid doing the hard maths that physics requires". The use of "possible" and "could" suggests this wasn't a specific reason girls had given her for their choices.

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James Thompson's avatar

Thanks. According to what I read elsewhere, her remarks originally referred to her own school. Minor issue

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Forse's avatar

"Things–People distribution, there are only 0.287 women for every man; so the top quartile is 78% male.” Pedantic Point: it’s 71.3%.....

That aside, I enjoyed the article! Glad to see the Swedish data. Which I’ve seen before. Interesting, that when women are in a gender neutral society they tend to choose the more classically “feminine” jobs than do women in less equal societies. That’s one needs a bit more widely spreading....

Also: why no struggle for gender parity in the dirty and dangerous jobs? Sewer workers, rat catchers and the like? I always wonder about that.

Also: what about when women > men in a particular area. Should we worry about *that*?? If not, why not? There are more women in ballet.... and Women already outnumber men in many College courses. Hmmm?

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Noah Carl's avatar

Glad you enjoyed the article. Though I beg to differ about the calculation. I believe you did this: (1 – 0.287)*100 = 71.3. But the correct calculation is: 1/(1 + 0.287)*100 = 77.7.

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Forse's avatar

Oh, ok! 🌸

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